[optomeb]

Is that what a wrapper tag does, where could I learn about a wrapper tag
A link to what

[Klimapol]

Your page

[optomeb]

Not at the moment no

[Klimapol]

So we can view your source

[froomzer]

Is it ok to be derogatory yet?

[optomeb]

What for
Http://www.xpalms5.made2own.com/wifitech/
See how the border is bordering the edges of the page and not the layout ?? thats because of width=100% , but how would I get it just to outline the general layout

[froomzer]

So add a silly border to the body element
Oh
Just the middle part?

[optomeb]

Ya
Just the layout
Just the design I should say

[Klimapol]

Put all that garbage in a div width: 830px; give it a border and center it

[optomeb]

Around all 4 edges